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Trump and Lula Hold Amicable Call, Set Talks on U.S. Tariffs and Sanctions

Lula used the 30‑minute conversation to ask Washington to lift punitive measures linked to the Bolsonaro case, signaling a tentative thaw.

Overview

  • Both presidents agreed to meet soon, with Trump saying sessions will occur in the United States and Brazil, and Brazil proposing the late‑October ASEAN summit or November’s COP30 as options.
  • The leaders exchanged personal phone numbers to keep a direct line open and appointed negotiators to lead follow‑up talks.
  • Trump designated Secretary of State Marco Rubio to coordinate with Brazil’s Vice President Geraldo Alckmin and ministers Mauro Vieira and Fernando Haddad.
  • Brazil is pressing to remove additional tariffs reported at roughly 40–50% on many exports and to end U.S. visa and financial restrictions on officials, measures imposed in response to the Bolsonaro prosecution.
  • Lula argued the tariffs lack commercial basis by noting a U.S. goods‑and‑services surplus with Brazil, as Brazilian officials called the call extremely positive but no policy changes were announced.