Overview

• Rogan challenged Luna’s assertion that protests are driven by foreign funding, saying he partly agreed but that reports of ICE agents pulling workers from schools and Home Depot fueled genuine public outrage.
• He argued that many people caught in the raids are landscapers and construction laborers rather than violent offenders, contradicting the administration’s pledge to target serious criminals.
• Luna defended the Trump administration’s enforcement, claiming both sides benefit from undocumented labor and dismissing protests as partly manufactured.
• Conflicting statistics persist on detainees’ criminal records after June raids, with the Associated Press reporting most lacked convictions while DHS maintains 70% of arrests involve individuals with U.S. charges or convictions.
• Rogan’s public critique highlights growing rifts among pro-enforcement allies as lawsuits, state legal challenges and industry warnings intensify around expanded ICE operations.