Overview

• In her first podcast interview on On Purpose with Jay Shetty, the 67-year-old singer disclosed she considered taking her life during the dispute over son Rocco.
• She described lying on her dressing-room floor in tears while touring, calling the period one of the most painful of her life.
• The cross-border custody fight with ex-husband Guy Ritchie concluded in September 2016 with a settlement allowing Rocco to remain in the UK.
• Madonna said her long-standing study of Kabbalah reframed the crisis, and she has launched The Mystical Studies of the Zohar course with teacher Eitan Yardeni.
• She said she no longer feels suicidal and is now “really good friends” with Rocco, and she reflected on reconciling with her late brother Christopher before his death in 2024, for whom she wrote a tribute song.