Overview

• Jonathan Van Ness, who identifies as nonbinary, recently opened up about a heated discussion on trans rights and gender affirming care that took place during an episode of Dax Shepard's podcast, Armchair Expert.
• Van Ness claimed that the conversation was heavily edited and differed significantly from the actual discussion, which was more intense and led to Van Ness almost walking out twice.
• Despite the emotional and intense conversation, Van Ness stated that he believes he and Shepard are on good terms, although they have not spoken since the episode.
• Van Ness expressed disappointment that he was not given a transcript or insight into how the conversation would be edited before the episode was released.
• Van Ness hopes for a private conversation with Shepard in the future, where a more genuine apology and ownership might be given.