Jonathan Van Ness Opens Up About Heated Podcast Discussion with Dax Shepard

Van Ness claims the conversation was heavily edited and more intense than what was aired, leading him to almost walk out twice.

Jonathan Van Ness, who identifies as nonbinary, recently opened up about a heated discussion on trans rights and gender affirming care that took place during an episode of Dax Shepard's podcast, Armchair Expert.
Van Ness claimed that the conversation was heavily edited and differed significantly from the actual discussion, which was more intense and led to Van Ness almost walking out twice.
Despite the emotional and intense conversation, Van Ness stated that he believes he and Shepard are on good terms, although they have not spoken since the episode.
Van Ness expressed disappointment that he was not given a transcript or insight into how the conversation would be edited before the episode was released.
Van Ness hopes for a private conversation with Shepard in the future, where a more genuine apology and ownership might be given.