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Joe Gebbia Explains Break With Democrats as He Leads U.S. Design Overhaul

He cites border enforcement concerns as the reason for his shift.

Overview

  • In a newly released podcast interview, the Airbnb co-founder said he could not support a party he believes favors an open border that "lets in criminals and dangerous people."
  • He said the border issue first drew his focus in early to mid‑2021, after which he consulted Democratic contacts before Jared Kushner connected him with experts on immigration enforcement.
  • Gebbia credited Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and his Make America Healthy Again message as influences during his political transition.
  • He joined Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency in February to help digitize the paper-based federal retirement process, then was appointed in August as the nation’s first chief design officer to lead the National Design Studio under America by Design.
  • He said he received "hate mail text messages" and described the initial reaction to his DOGE work as depressing but emphasized his commitment to improving government digital services.