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Ian Sams Tells House Investigators He Rarely Met Biden During His White House Tenure

Republicans say the account undercuts his public assurances of Biden’s fitness, intensifying questions about autopen use.

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Ian Sams speaks to members of the media outside the White House on March 12, 2024.
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Overview

  • Ian Sams sat for a voluntary, closed-door transcribed interview Thursday in the House Oversight probe into the former White House’s operations.
  • Chairman James Comer said Sams described only two in-person meetings with Biden, plus one virtual meeting and one phone call between 2022 and 2024.
  • Investigators are scrutinizing whether aides used an autopen for major executive actions and a broad clemency program without Biden’s direct assent.
  • Conservative watchdog materials cite internal DOJ emails warning that the language of mass commutations risked covering violent offenders.
  • Biden has insisted he personally made the decisions and experts note autopen use can be lawful, though the committee says questions remain.