Heritage Foundation President Clashes with MSNBC Hosts Over Immigration Policy

Kevin Roberts defends Project 2025 and mass deportation plans, sparking heated debate on terminology and crime statistics.

Kevin Roberts argues for the largest mass deportation in U.S. history, citing legal and moral imperatives.
MSNBC hosts challenge Roberts on the logistics and ethics of deporting 11 million people.
The discussion becomes tense over the use of terms like 'illegal immigrants' versus 'undocumented individuals.'
Roberts points to crimes committed by some migrants as justification for strict policies.
Hosts counter with studies showing lower crime rates among undocumented individuals compared to legal residents.