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Dan Howell and Phil Lester Confirm Relationship Dating to 2009, Announce Podcast and Boundaries

Citing homophobia and career concerns, the duo opens a controlled new phase that prioritizes creative work and clear privacy rules.

Overview

  • In a video posted on Oct. 13, the longtime collaborators said they have been romantically involved since 2009, never formally labeled the relationship, and ultimately lived together.
  • They asked fans to respect limits by not digging into unshared details or leaking private information, framing the disclosure as a “clean slate.”
  • Howell described an extremely homophobic upbringing and fear of career blowback as key reasons for keeping the relationship private, with both noting concerns that their work would be overshadowed.
  • They announced the Dan and Phil podcast as their next joint project and stressed they will not pivot to overt couple vlogging or on‑camera romance.
  • The pair acknowledged normal ups and downs in their partnership, as years of ‘Phan’ shipping gave way to widespread online reaction to the confirmation.