Overview

• Lutnick recounted a 2005 visit to Epstein’s Manhattan townhouse where a massage table was displayed and Epstein made a sexually suggestive remark, prompting Lutnick and his wife to leave.
• He claimed Epstein’s modus operandi centered on massages and said he assumes encounters were recorded, further speculating that such videos could have been traded for Epstein’s 2008 plea deal.
• Lutnick emphasized that his theory is an assumption and that he has no direct knowledge of any videos or a trade with prosecutors.
• A July DOJ–FBI memo reported no Epstein client list and no credible evidence of systematic blackmail, and a 2020 DOJ OPR report said victims who spoke to law enforcement did not report video recordings.
• A spokesperson for Bill Gates rejected Lutnick’s implication as “absolutely false,” and Lutnick declined to say whether President Trump shared his view of Epstein when pressed in the podcast.