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Ben Shapiro Rebukes Tucker Carlson at Heritage, Urges 'Ideological Border' for Conservatism

The speech signaled an effort to set formal limits on who speaks for the right after Heritage’s defense of Carlson’s Fuentes interview triggered internal backlash.

Overview

  • Speaking at the Heritage Foundation, Ben Shapiro called Tucker Carlson "an opponent of conservatism" and accused him of pushing conspiracy theories and being soft on hostile regimes.
  • Shapiro argued the movement needs enforceable "ideological borders" and urged Heritage to act as "ideological border control" consistent with its mission.
  • He cited Carlson’s stances on the free market, limited government, national defense, and traditional values as evidence of a departure from conservative principles.
  • The remarks followed Heritage president Kevin Roberts’ initial defense of Carlson’s Nick Fuentes interview and his later acknowledgment that calling critics a "venomous coalition" was a mistake.
  • Heritage has faced internal blowback, with reported departures including scholar Stephen Moore and two trustees, and Carlson responded to Shapiro’s critique by saying, "Too funny."