Overview
- In a podcast released Monday, Gebbia said concerns about the U.S.-Mexico border in 2021 led him to conclude he could no longer support Democrats.
- He told host Katie Miller he consulted Jared Kushner, who connected him with border-policy experts that shaped his views.
- Gebbia credited his prior support for Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as a step that ultimately led him to embrace President Donald Trump.
- He recounted receiving “hate mail” and other backlash from peers after joining Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency in February.
- After an August 21 executive order created the National Design Studio, Gebbia became the first U.S. chief design officer with goals to modernize federal services, citing an Apple Store–level user experience and early work digitizing the federal retirement process.